- Written by Keith Rowell
- Last Updated: 18 May 2015
Oregon MUFON is pleased to present David Sielaff's "A Christian's View of UFOs" for our June 2015 meeting. David is a longtime friend and supporter of Oregon MUFON. I have been after him for a while now to make a formal presentation to our group on his views about UFOs from a Christian perspective. And he has finally found the time for us. Thanks, David!
David is the director of a small Bible outreach and educational organization (Associates for Scriptural Knowledge -- ASK) that is based on the work of Dr. Ernest L. Martin, a prolific Bible scholar and historian. Check out ASK at http://www.askelm.com/index.asp.
David himself is a graduate of the University of Wisconsin in history and political science and of the Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, CA, from which he holds a Masters of Arts in Theology. Through his directorship at ASK, David continues to pursue Dr. Martin's archeological interests surrounding King David's temple in modern day Jerusalem and Israel along with Dr. Martin's historical work in Christian theology.
David has had a longstanding interest in UFOs and things paranormal, having attended meetings and conferences on those topics off and on over his career. Please come hear a different view of the meaning and import of UFOs from a Christian perspective. Oregon MUFON's view of the UFO is that at this early stage in our knowledge about UFOs all important perspectives including religious perspectives should be heard.
If you are a believing member of some faith-based group whether, for example, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, "New Age," or other group., and you have made a special study of the UFO literature, we want to hear your considered opinions at Oregon MUFON. As you know, MUFON's mission is the scientific (and scholarly) study of UFOs, but Oregon MUFON believes that all seriously considered perspectives need to be brought to bear on the most important problem of our times: What are the implications of UFO phenomena for humankind?
- Written by Keith Rowell
- Last Updated: 18 February 2015
This UFO story is from an email and a phone call from Charlotte King, who is known for her ability to predict large earthquakes. (Check her out on google.com.) We have documented previously a UFO sighting by Charlotte a while back on our website. Here is another recent sighting of hers. Email us if you think you saw the same thing or something similar.
UFO Type: A single, white, glowing object that made a large circular path rapidly and repeatedly in the sky.
Sighting Duration: The phenomenon was seen at a couple of different locations during at least 20 minutes in the second sighting.
Date: First one: October or November 2011; second one: 2/6/15.
Time: First one: about 7 PM; second one: about 7 PM also.
Place: Salem, Oregon.
Witness: Charlotte King.
Here is Charlotte's emailed account augmented by our phone conversation.
After the [first] investigation [you did[ [Case Report: Salem Maneuvering Orb-like UFOs], I continued to watch for unusual things. I saw something just before my mom passed in 2011. I was leaving her home I believe it was October or November  and looked up in the sky. It was about 7 PM on what I believe was a Friday, not sure on that one. I saw what appeared to be search lights moving, which in itself is not unusual, but these lights were above the clouds and moving in a fast pattern. The pattern was large and there was no sound. I continued to watch them driving home on NE Cordon Road, and once I arrived home, I did not see them anymore. [It is] approximately 6 miles from my Mom's house to mine, straight down NE Cordon Road.
The next day I called the airport and did not get [any information that would explain the mystery] so I went online to see if any of the car lots, etc., had been celebrating a grand opening. etc. Nothing jumped out on that [explanation] so on the following Monday, I contacted the [Salem] company that rents the large search lights to see if anyone in Salem had been using them on Friday and they said "no." So I called the National Guard, the attachment at the Salem airport. I spoke to someone and asked if they had been up Friday night and they said just a minute and a man came to the phone, (sorry I did not write down his name), and he said he lived off NE Cordon Road and he had seen the same thing I did and he had no idea what it was, but it was not a helicopter.
[On] Friday, February 6, 2015, I was on Lancaster Drive, heading north. I needed to stop at the Kaiser Permanente office on Lancaster. It was just prior to 7 PM. I looked out of my car window and saw what looked like search lights. I went into the office and according to the receipt I have [from my purchase], it was time stamped at 7:17, so the object was visible for at least 22 minutes. When I came out of the Kaiser office, the lights were still clearly visible. They were in the exact same place as they were before [in my previous sighting of 2011]: two miles between my mom's house and the Kaiser office. I made a note of the direction. They were due west. The thing that bothers me about these sightings, which could be search lights, is there is no sign of a beam going up into the sky like search lights do. The cloud cover was dense and the ceiling was low.
As I watched the clouds, I could clearly see the lights moving in a circular pattern, going round and round [about one revolution per second]. That is how fast they were making a complete revolution or circle. The circle was approximately the size of a football field. [Charlotte and I talked about this. I explained the concept of angular size and Charlotte believes now that the angular size of what she saw was about what your fist would cover when held at arm's length in front of you. We cannot know the real size of an unknown, unidentified object in the sky when it not very near something that we do know the real size of.]
Even if it were a helicopter, which I do not believe it was, their search lights [attached to the front of helicopters] can’t spread out in a circle that large . . . and again, no sound. What the lights looked like was a bright blue white light, but it was above the clouds so it's hard to say what it might have looked like. If it was a helicopter, like a police helicopter -- I used to see them in Sacramento frequently -- if they were above the clouds and shining their beam down, it should have pierced the clouds and something should have shown through.
I had taken my camera out of the car that morning. I am going to keep one in the car at all times from now on! [I will not be without my camera again!] This will not happen again.
I was speaking to a friend about [what I saw] and she said that she had seen what she thought were search lights a couple of days before, and she thought they might be from Keizer Station, a large shopping mall north of Salem. She might have seen something, but these were due west and the northern direction would not have fit this pattern. Plus I have seen lots of search lights and they do not move in a circle that fast. They sweep and do not rotate. I have not called the search light rental place yet [this time] but will try to reach them on Monday.
The thing that intrigues me most is [that] this is exactly what I had seen before: about the same time of year in winter with low ceiling, dense clouds, and about the same speed [of revolution], and staying in the same place for such a long time period.
When I arrived home, just like last time, they were not visible and it had begun to rain.
Anyway if you have any ideas, please let me know. I will be happy to [attribute] this sighting to something else, but I need to know what.
If you can shed any light on Charlotte's sightings, please contact Oregon MUFON.
- Written by Keith Rowell
- Last Updated: 12 September 2014
At Oregon MUFON, we investigate UFOs and related phenomena and do our best to help people understand what we have learned. Oregon MUFON is affiliated with the Mutual UFO Network, Inc., which is the largest UFO investigative organization in the United States. It was formed in 1969 by UFO-interested citizens because it was felt that our government and the scientific establishment were not doing enough to find answers to this on-going mystery in our skies.
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